What is happening to the Florida Gators? Three years ago they were steamrolling their way through the SEC en route to their second straight National Championship. It was the pinnacle for the program that took Billy Donovan 10 years to mold into a national power. And after bring pursued by the best job in college basketball (Kentucky) there seemed to be no better coach in the country than Donovan himself.
Flash forward. The Gators are now team that is fresh off of two huge bubble losses, they are looking more and more like the Florida team we’ve seen the last two seasons that has fallen apart in February and cost them a trip to the NCAAs. What has happened in Gainesville?
I. The Orlando Magic
Billy Donovan jumped at the open Magic gig in the summer of 2007 after being offered $5 million a year…two days later, he changed his mind. Journalists immediately recalled the story of Bobby Cremins, who backed out on South Carolina to remain at Georgia Tech after agreeing to taking the job in 1993. Cremins never returned to the level he originally achieved at Georgia Tech, and eventually left the program after a couple losing seasons. Many, of course, wondered if the future would be similar for Donovan.
Each situation is different, and there was no doubt that Billy’s temporary leave from Florida became an easy target for opposing recruiters to pick at, but seriously?
II. Recruits
Billy Donovan has missed some big ones the last few years, no fault of his own, they’re 18 year old kids making decisions. If heavy Gator leans like Patrick Patterson, Eric Bledsoe, or Rico Pickett had committed to Florida, they would be in a much better position than they are today, but for some reason or another the ball bounced the wrong way and they went elsewhere. While Florida has been to the highest level of college basketball, they’re not a traditional power, and pulling recruits might take a little more work than Kentucky or North Carolina. Missing on these type players can mean the difference between great years and bubble years.
Still, it’s not like Florida hasn’t pulled some gems…
III. Transfers
Florida has had 8 players transfer since 2002. Jonathan Mitchell is starting and playing well for Rutgers. Other big time recruits Eloy Vargas and Allan Chaney couldn’t maintain academic standing and had to transfer to other schools more willing to take their risks. Jai Lucas left after one year to go to Texas, fearing that he wouldn’t see much playing time. Florida’s talent pool was decimated, leaving them with 10 scholarship players for this season. One of those scholarships was a reach in Rod Tishman, a European player who had played for club teams most of his life. The NCAA allows 13. That sums that up.
IV. Depth
When you go with an 8 man rotation, not by choice, but because there is nothing left on the bench besides walk-ons you’re asking for it come February, and that has been, without a doubt Florida’s biggest hole. When Kenny Kadji went down with back injury, the front line was decimated, plain and simple. No big men = tough times. It’s a pretty simple idea.
Also, who would have known that Dan Werner, a herald recruit, and solid player his first few years would lose his game mentally and be benched in his senior season?
V. Lost Assistants
In the last 5 years Florida has lost John Pelphrey, Anthony Grant, and Donnie Jones. All went on to be head coaches elsewhere. All three have won at their next stop. All three were and still are considered great recruiters. Everyone loses assistants, but those were three of the best in the country, and very tough to replace.
Conclusion
The money is there. Florida spends the second most on men’s basketball (only trailing Kentucky) in the SEC. They’re second in booster contributions in the SEC. They’ve never batted a lash at anything the coach has asked for.
The future is bright also. Studs like Austin Rivers have committed to Billy Donovan, others like Brandon Knight are high on the radar. You’ve never seen this squad quit, cry, or complain, no matter how they matchup, they go out and play harder than any team I’ve seen at the University of Florida (Seriously). There are definitely some solid leaders and role players there.
It’s just shocking as a Florida basketball fan to see this drop. If you asked me 5 years ago if I would be willing to trade two NCAA Championships for three straight NITs, I probably would have said yes. Most fans would say yes. It’s just tough to say this program is finished, the reality is it has just been the perfect storm of back luck, bad decisions, and tough losses when it mattered. Look at the NBA All-Star game this past weekend, two of his players were on the team. Joakim Noah is the favorite to win the NBA’s Most Improved Award. Players like Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, and Matt Bonner have carved solid careers in the NBA. Donovan and his staff have had no problems developing players. ‘While it seems like I’ve convinced myself of this the last two seasons, I really believe, next season, Florida will be back, they just need one big time stud to get them there.

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#1 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 1:21 pm
Just shows you what one great recruiting class can do for a program.
#2 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 1:25 pm
can’t use the assistant coaches excuse. this can be said about duke, unc, michigan state and a host of other teams that go to the final four regularly.
#3 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 1:29 pm
No, but not all at once. Plus Duke has had the same 3 assistant for like 20 years (Cooper Collins, Etc)
#4 by patphish on February 17, 2010 - 2:01 pm
once a decade ain’t regularly.
/Fuck Dook.
#5 by john on February 17, 2010 - 1:41 pm
I blame Tebow.
#6 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 1:50 pm
i don’t understand that magic. are you actually blaming the media?
#7 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 1:56 pm
?
#8 by tallguy on February 17, 2010 - 1:54 pm
Duke assistants in the past 20 years: Brey, Gaudet, Amaker, Snyder, Dawkins, Collins, Wojo, Nate James, Coach K’s son in law. Decent revolving door, though not that big of a deal other than losing Dawkins.
#9 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 1:58 pm
OH i see. No! I’m blaming Billy, because his backing out was a really bad idea. Anthony Grant had basically agreed to be coach at UF, and was an hour from being announced.
#10 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 1:59 pm
your first reason for why they are struggling. i don’t get how that is a reason.
#11 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:03 pm
The program was rocked when Billy jetted to the magic. No one trusts him.
#12 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:08 pm
he came right back. i don’t buy that.
#13 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:08 pm
shake the cold meds cobwebs from your head…that flip flop hurt recruiting and lowered confidence in the stability of the program. hence, recruiting commits heading elsewhere and players transferring.
#14 by cbh49er on February 17, 2010 - 2:13 pm
I’m with Sparty, I don’t think any recruits they are trying to land now give a crap that he left for 2 seconds. Might have been a reasonable excuse for a year or so but not three straight mediocre years.
#15 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:18 pm
In the last 3 years we’ve lost: Patrick Patterson, Eric Bledsoe, etc…all were very strong FLorida leans.
#16 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:24 pm
whether you want to admit it or not, even with gillespie there, kentucky basketball has always be a bigger pull than florida.
#17 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:27 pm
Dude. Patterson was on UK’s radar, but his best friend (Jai Lucas) committed to Florida and he was such a Florida lean that the coaching staff at UK didn’t know he committed until they got texts telling them.
Everyone figured he was going to UF, and he switched at the last second.
#18 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:30 pm
KY basketball had a Zook-esque era of irrelevance that ended the moment John Calipari was purchased.
#19 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:32 pm
meant to add that KY added boozing to their Zook-esque era though.
#20 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:35 pm
so they were still pulling talent. thanks for making my point.
#21 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:38 pm
The talent during Gillispie? Patterson. And Gillispie didn’t recruit him.
The rest Liggins, etc are 2nd fiddle to the studs Cal brought in.
#22 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:42 pm
yeah, they pulled talent, but not like they would have been had they kept their winning pace of the 90′s. the end of Tubby Smith and the tenure of Drunk Billy knocked KY down a peg at the same time Billy D had the Gaytors making deep tourney runs and coming up short…i.e. Florida was a more desirable place to go than KY for a short time period. that’s over now. Califaggy and World Wide Wes are gonna run through the SEC annually.
#23 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:25 pm
I really don’t think it’s an agree or disagree opinion…it’s more like a fact that Billy D’s flip flop proved to recruits that he considered leaving for a “better” job. and, it swung the door wide open for opposing coaches recruiting against the Gaytors to constantly remind those players that if Billy D was willing to leave once, he’s likely willing to leave again.
#24 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:14 pm
What he said.
#25 by john on February 17, 2010 - 2:22 pm
Miz is defending his new alma mater!
#26 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:27 pm
ugh.
/phuck the gaytors
#27 by patphish on February 17, 2010 - 2:02 pm
The problem with Florida basketball is the players. They aren’t good.
#28 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:07 pm
Dan Werner hasn’t been the same since looking into Tyler Smith’s eyes caused his soul to spontaneously combust.
#29 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:15 pm
billy just can’t coach them up.
#30 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:19 pm
Please. The first guy off our bench is Dan Werner whose last three OPEN shots have been air balls.
Talent is the biggest reason.
#31 by HawkEye19 on February 17, 2010 - 2:24 pm
Then Billy can’t recuit them
#32 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:25 pm
i can’t help but read this as Dave Werner every single time i see his name. go Big D!
#33 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:28 pm
never heard of him.
#34 by cbh49er on February 17, 2010 - 2:22 pm
The reality is they have just been dragged down by the dreck that is SEC basketball.
#35 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:40 pm
look, Florida had one helluva a 2 year run. nobody had done that since duke 15 years before. Billy should be applauded for that. however, a lot of that had to do with him having the best talent on the court for that 24 month period. he had seriously talented teams before that and underachieved quite a bit.
and i know you will bring it up, but the team that made the run in 2000 and was smoked by michigan state just got really hot at the right time, and a lot of teams choked on a fat dick in that tournament. that happens in the tournament, a lot. i mean shit, michigan won the tourney in 1989, but was not considered a real serious contender when it started.
#36 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:49 pm
Hogwash. That 2000 team knocked off Illinois, Duke, Oklahoma State, and UNC. That’s not luck.
As for teh other years. Yes, we had some teams that just folded come March.
#37 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:52 pm
they got hot, i didn’t say they got lucky. though that may have been UNCs worst Final Four team ever.
#38 by Johnny on February 17, 2010 - 3:34 pm
THIS
#39 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:46 pm
What i am saying is that florida isn’t a big time basketball program, though it had a very nice run. similar to what michigan did during the steve fisher era, the only difference is that billy d sealed the deal more often and without known cheating. i don’t think he is as great of a coach, especially if he cannot overcome the loss of assistants. he has had enough talent to at least make the tournament, but has failed. the SEC was atrocious the previous 2 years.
#40 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:48 pm
i’ve watch florida quite a bit the last couple years because of trey, and he is still trying to have these guys play the same style of ball as every other florida team. why not play more to the strengths of your guys?
AND HOW THE HELL DID WE LOSE TO THEM THIS SEASON?!?!?!?!?!?
#41 by cbh49er on February 17, 2010 - 2:56 pm
How the hell did you lose to Carolina?
I know they shot lights out that night but still…
#42 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:57 pm
they got hot?
#43 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:59 pm
we turned it over 22 times and couldn’t hit shit.
#44 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 2:58 pm
He runs the pro style offense to attract recruits. And it has worked.
#45 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 2:54 pm
Florida isn’t a big time basketball program simply because it has a big time football program…just like Texas. Rick Barnes keeps his job and his dark circles under his eyes while annually underachieving because Texas has a big time football program. KY can recover from bad years because it’s a big time basketball program.
Billy D’s biggest obstacle is the fact he won national championships and gave the fanbase a taste and the expectations of a big time program. since he took over in ’96, he’s taken them to the tourney 11 times with four sweet sixteens and three championship game appearances resulting in two championships. that’s better than just a very nice run.
#46 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 2:57 pm
but we are talking about them here like they are a big time program. why write a post about what is wrong with them otherwise? you can’t miss the dance 3 years in a row. ya just can’t.
#47 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 3:01 pm
Lets look at it objectively too…Florida won 23 games and missed the dance last year.
Not too many BCS teams in history can say that, but because Miss State won the SEC tourny they got the tourny bid that was supossed to be Florida’s
#48 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 3:02 pm
what do you make of Indiana then? do you think they’re sunk forever to Notre Dame football levels of clinging only to history?
#49 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 3:09 pm
Not the same thing as Notre Dame. Indiana has to recover from sanctions and loss of players thanks to Kelvin Sampson. They have the right coach there that can get more out of his players than most. the talent there is downright terrible at this moment. they have zero size, an zero playmakers. but depending on who they land the next couple of years, Crean could have them back in the tournament every single season again at the least.
#50 by patphish on February 17, 2010 - 3:11 pm
Hey, stay on topic.
#51 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 3:14 pm
you’re right…shouldn’t have brought Indiana into this.
#52 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 3:01 pm
what the hell is a pro style offense? i can think of two styles…have your superstar run over people and get to the line, or throw it in to a big man and have everyone else stand around the 3 point line.
#53 by GatorTrey on February 17, 2010 - 3:06 pm
High screen and roll, etc. he banks on that idea with recruits.
#54 by patphish on February 17, 2010 - 3:10 pm
NBA: It’s
FANtasticfucking sucks!#55 by mizerle06 on February 17, 2010 - 3:12 pm
/gaytors’d
#56 by sparty on February 17, 2010 - 3:16 pm
i know that was you, kwsn!
#57 by Andrew on February 21, 2010 - 5:16 pm
Florida is a football school
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